This band was very good on their first album but the people at Joaquin ruined them by trying to force them into a swing thing that they were getting into all right. Every album they did except for the first sounds contrived and fake. "I Flipped" is very messy. They would have been better to do their own record and just let Joaquin release it. Sad to say they broke up in 2000 and Ray recently died so there will be no more. Oh well the first album was great.
